KevOnStage, an actor, comedian, YouTube content creator, best-selling author, amongst many other things, stops by the Nothings Ever That Serious podcast to talk religion, comedy, marriage, how to make it in Hollywood, and much more.

The NETS welcome Los Angeles based comedian, Shapel Lacey, a diehard punk rocker and former award-winning competitive cheerleader, Shapel found ways to express himself and own his individuality at an early age.

The NETS go camping in the woods and talk boy scouts, wilderness survival, and wild furry animals. Drew recounts the time he went camping in the mountain with igloos, all in the name of love.

The guys discuss whether you should try to "fix" someone you're dating, or leave it up to someone with steady hands. Drew and Guru use personal family experiences to have an intervention for Jay, whose work habits have become dangerous to his health.